tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN September 17, 2015 10:00pm-11:01pm PDT
let's take a look at the victory lap after the debate for donald trump. >> we had a little thing called a debate at the reagan library. and it was an amazing thing. we had an incredible time. >> we love you! >> thank you. thank you. that was some evening. i got such great remarks, look at this. time magazine did votes as to who won the debate last night, right? so "time" magazine, 114,000 votes as of 6:00 p.m. trump, 56, carly fiorina, 19.
rubio, 7, ben carson 4. the rest not doing too good. then drudge, we love drudge, we love drudge. donald trump 51%. we had a total of 668,000 votes cast. then rubio, then cruz then i'm not going to mention the next one because i don't like them very much. then news max way up ahead. you like news max, i like it, too. donald trump, first place by a lot. street, the street, donald trump, 52%. that's a lot when you have all of these guys.
donald trump, 52%, first place. then you have slate. and that's also donald trump. so we had a great time. >> from there, he opened the floor to the audience. the first question we got. >> the biggest problem in this country is muslims. we know our president is one. >> right. >> he's not even an american. >> we needed this question, the first question. >> ef we have training kafrs, this they want to kill us. >> we're going to be looking at a dot of different things. a lot of people are saying that, a lot of people are saying bad things are happening. we're going to look at that and plenty of other things. >> if that moment sounds familiar, you're right. the same thing happened to john mccain. here's how he handled that then.
>> i don't trust obama. i read about him. he's not -- he's an arab. he is not -- no? >> no ma'am, no ma'am. he's a decent family man citizen that i just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues. >> by heard that again, there's a problem in this country with muslims. not muslim radle kas, but muslims. how did the audience react? >> it's interesting, trump didn't react. he seemed a little taken aback like this is the first question? but he didn't refute the premise of it all. he kind of moved on. there was no visible reaction from the crowd, no pushback from
this premise. we tried to catch up, ask him to elaborate, ask if he really agreed with the premise of that question? he's going to be back on the campaign trail tomorrow and over the weekend. i cannot imagine that this is the last time he's going to ask to sort of certify that he explanned on that question and what he agrees with that premise. >> what else did the audience want to know from trump tonight. >> we see a lot from him. you got a much better sense of the issues that zond trump was comfortable with. he was very clearly in his element talking about immigration, talking about
trade. not so much when people asked about the more unique things they ask about in new hampshire, like agricultural fees. or for instance about speeding up the process in family court. you really got a sense of where donald trump is practiced on certain issues and where he was taken off-guard. wasn't quite sure how to field those questions. >> appreciate you being there. thank you. coming up, reaction right now from political commentator ken madden. also with us, paul steinhauser who is currently political director and anchor. pretty good place to be. you were there at the trump event tonight. this question about muslims. again, if your vantage point, what was the crowd's reaction? >> you know, as sara said, i think since donald trump didn't react, it was pretty quiet in the room at the time, he kind of glossed over it and moved on. so there wasn't really any reaction. he wanted to move quickly to the next question so the crowd didn't have any chance to react.
>> there are some who might claim that was an overkp overexaggerati overexaggeration, this was a chance to say look, we don't need this. should he have actually confronted the premise? >> yeah, i think that kind of confrontation would have served him well. but he's not a very polished politician in that sense. he doesn't netly try to confront that or stop that. instead he tries to engage with it. one of the really important things we've seen in last night's debate was we have a whole host of candidates that are really skilled, really good on policy, focused on the issue ps. those are the types of crowds that they want to engage.
this is an opportunity for candidates to help consolidate support amongst a larger part of the electorate inside the republican party. that wants to see somebody be able to bring people together. >> how big was this tonight. >> what would the other issues that were really important to them? of. >> he's had some crowds 2000 before. fire marshalls telling me they had 3,000. for new hampshire, that's pretty large. we're not going to get the 15,000 or 20,000 that trump or bernie sanders have hads elsewhere. his crowds have been getting bigger throughout the fall. people with showing up to see if it was really real. now these are very strong sup
poerts of donald trump. more blue collar than white collar crowds, but they are truly believers. anderson? >> great to have you on the program. coming up next, how a potentially very influential group of republicans saw the debate, undecided voters in iowa tell them which candidates impressed them the most or whether anything they heard last night won them over. when a wildfire raged through elkhorn ranch, the sudden loss of pasture became a serious problem for a family business. faced with horses that needed feeding and a texas drought that sent hay prices soaring, the owners had to act fast. thankfully, mary miller banks with chase for business. and with greater financial clarity and a relationship built for the unexpected, she could control her cash flow, and keep the ranch running. chase for business. so you can own it. chase for business. ♪
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the payoff is going to come from a much smaller number of eyes and ears. in fact, since the first contest, it's going to be the caucuses in iowa where politics have neighbor to neighbor, one-on-one, just a few thousand viewers. last night could be pivotal, which is why our randi kaye spent the night talking to voters in iowa. >> 32 iowa undecided republicans hoped the debate would help them figure out who to vote for. >> is there anyone trump scored points with? >> for our focus group, donald trump was not at the top of our list. >> women across the country are unplooezed with the laundry list of horrible comment he is made about women. >> i'm concerned about him being the president, that he would maybe start a war with a nuclear bomb or something like that.
>> some in our group thought he should have played nice when jeb bush pressed him about bringing bush's wife, who is mexican-american into the immigration conversation. >> why don't you apologize to her right now. >> i won't apologize because i said nothing wrong. >> in fact, trump didn't even score when they were asked who did the best job in this debate. carly fiorina rated the highest with 22 out of 32 in her corner. >> you have to give her a lot of credit. and i think over the last six months, she is coming into her own. and she isn't afraid of anybody or anything. >> i was sr. prized by her knowledge of the fact, especially the size of certain areas of the military. >> i think this is one place you can buy toughness and softness of a woman in one package.
>> this is about the character of our nation. and if we will not stand up and force president obama to veto this bill, shame on us. >> it really hit me as a woman that we're even discussing this. this is even a political issue. because to me it's a humanity issue. >> is it important for you to have a woman in the white house? >> i don't really care. i'm not about parts and man parts, girl parts. i don't really care. >> this group is most concerned about jobs and the economy. and they think an outsider can deliver. >> i think the traditional candidates represent the establishment of the republican party and it's failed. it's failed us, it's failed americans. >> which may be why most of our group was turned off by jeb bush. even though they thought he showed more spark. >> i like him. i really do, but three bushes, i'm not sure. i think he's probably a little more liberal than george and his father. >> one establishment candidate
that did break through was the governor from new jersey. >> you're both successful people. congratulations. you know who's not successful? the middle class in this country who's getting plowed over. >> chris christie, i'm going to pay attention more there. he probably listed out more specifics than some of the others. >> others weren't as impressed. >> chris christie is great for jersey. keep him there. >> did anyone in this group of voters decided on a candidate after they watched this debate or are they still undecided? >> not a single one of those voters said that they can dhooz a candidate just yet. they narrowed it down some of them to about four or five. but they need to hear more specifics. they are, as you heard in the piece, leaning towards an outsid outsider. although there was one woman in the group who said hey, remember, obama was once an outsider, she said, and we don't like how things have turned out.
all of them, anderson, think that the country is moving in the wrong direction. one guy told me last night that he thinks the federal government is like -- they're like living in the land of oz. they're completely out of touch with the rest of the america. there's one final thought, anderson. i also ask them, could you vote for them? every time they've always said yes. in this group, anderson, they said no. they said they would write in a candidate of their choosing. they would not support the republican nominee just because he is the nominee. they would pick their own candidate. will we see some of his support start to wane? some people were talking about that last night. maybe they start to see some sort of chinks in the armor. but as you heard, trump tonight
touting a lot of online polls. you know, which were based on public clicks, that supporters say he won the debate. >> internet trolls like trump. okay, congratulations. but the actual polling data is still not come in. we have to wait and see here. >> there's a lot more than internet polls. come on, let's be fair. >> i'm giving him a little bit of a hard time. he's so proud of those numbers. i just couldn't help taking a little bit of a poke at the numbers. but sure, listen. is he wildly popular? sure. are there people who wiatch the debate that like him so many up? that's true. a lot of voters will look for sbhb who is not an established candidate. he's getting trump fatigue or second glances to start picking up from him. but most importantly, i thought since ben carson didn't shine at all, she may pick up support
from him. it's going to take a couple of days to digest this entire debate that we just went through. but i think that we may be finally getting towards some kind of ceiling towards donald trump. >> do you think that's the case? >> i like the way van put it about donald trump fatigue setting in. >> he couldn't rise to the occasion, talk about the issues. the first chance he really had to talk about something in the early minutes of the debate, i thought was really notable. >> he went out of his way to awhack rand paul seemingly out of nowhere. he's nowhere near to him in the polls. i think that kind of spoke to his attitude about the whole debate where he's going to continue to attack people and to heck with the economy or anything maybe besides immigration.
>> these are iowa voters, you have some people that may have locked themselves into trump. that's fine. >> where is he going to grow? if those are iowa voters and they uniformly said not only were they not for trump, they couldn't vote. they would write in their best friend or something, that's not a good sign. that's one focus group. but that's not a good sign about his ability to grow, especially when you have a carly who could get the anti-establishment vote. and there are some accomplishment people now who are saying good things about cary fiorina. >> donald trump also attacked her on her business record.
they talked about the money she lost at hewlett-packard and the money she walked away with. >> she had a breakaway night. but that aside, we're starting to see the scrutiny set in and she certainly has some romney-esque-like vulnerables that i know the democrats are very excited about an that donald trump would be sure to exploit. chris christie took an opportunity to put the focus back on the economy. >> up next, the campaign of jeb bush capitalizes from a key
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after donald trump called george w. bush's administration a disas e, jeb bush said there's one thing i'll tell you about my brother, he kept us safe. there was a big applause. today, the campaign is promoting that clip online and in key states. bush meanwhile spoke in a rally in las vegas just a short time ago, taking a jab at trump, saying on "meet the press" he gets his foreign policy from watching tv shows. >> i'm not going to get my foreign policy based on watching the shows. or say don't worry about it, i'll figure it out later. you need a president with a steady mand hand because this is a dangerous world. you need a president who has men and women that understand what the world looks like, that love this country and understand its power. it is not to be the world's policeman. it's to lead the world. a country like ours needs to take care of the persecuted christians in the middle east.
where do you see your candidate getting into double digits. what does he need to do. and do you think last night was perhaps the first signs of some sort of weakness of donald trump. certainly his supporters said he did great. >> i think for sure it was a sign of weakness for donald trump. i thought jeb had a great night the moment you mentioned i thought was the moment of the debate, where he looked at donald trump and he said, you can disparage my brother if you want, but one thing is for sure, when this country is attacked, he kept us safe. and six weeks ago in the reagan library, jeb laid tout a plan to defeat isis. and he said i'm going to do the same exact thing. >> jeb bush is going to have a strong foreign policy. that's going to be a message resonating to primary voters. combined with his con receiver tif record of reform in florida,
we feel really good that's going to resonate with voters. >> resonating is one thing, but how do you actually start to move up in the polls. that's ultimately about getting people who are going to come out and caucus for jeb bush or be enthusiastic about jeb bush. and right now, the enthusiasm seeps to be for trump and dr. ben saar son. carson. do you see it as a long game that you're just hoping that donald trump starts to fade? >> for starter, i think we're putting together the best organization in all the states, iowa, new hampshire, nevada where governor bush was today. we've got the support of all the major elected leaders and county officials in every county.
we feel very good about the position we're in. i wouldn't replace it with anybody right now. >> you really would not trade places with anybody? >> who would you trade places with? donald trump is a ticking time bomb. there's no way that somebody who thought hillary clinton was going to be a good negotiator with iran wants the biggest tax increase in american history, supported partial birth abortion, there's no way he's going to be the nominee. >> you can't honestly say that you're happy your candidate is in single digits in the polls after all the name recognition he has and all the run-up to this. >> of course we are. like we said, people think they know jeb, but they don't know about his record. >> you're happen he's in single digits? >> what i'm saying is i'm happy the position we're in, looking at this state by state race. you've got to be able to win the early states. the iowa caucus, the south
carolina primary or nevada. i think jeb is well positioned to win. we're going to continue to go to our vote share. we just began advertising last week. if you look at the online reprediction market, jeb is quite literally the odds on favorite to be the nominee. we feel great about where we're at. we feel good about the work we're doing on the ground to make sure we get there. >> it got a big applause when he defended his brother last night saying his brother kept the country safe. is that something we're going to be hearing more of to jeb bush. he laid out a plan for defeating isis. no matter what you're going to say about his broth e, nobody doubts his commitment and his resolve to taking on the terrorists. we don't have a president right now that's doing that.
we feel that's a winning message. i don't think having a straty to take on isis will be a bigger ri risk. you saw it last night. it's an enormous contrast with donald trump. an enormous contrast with hillary clinton. voters are going to make sure america is a leader in the world. >> andersson, good to be with you, man. >> donald trump and ben carson being slammed for their argument on vaccines. also tonight, cnn exclusive, hillary clinton's first live interview from the 2016 campaign trail. she talks to wolf blitzer between events in new hampshire. namaste. stay. taking care of our teeth is one of them. when i brush my teeth, he gets a milk-bone brushing chew.
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their response to his remarks. and here's some of what was said. >> i only say it's not -- i'm in favor of vaccines. do them over a longer period of time, same amount, but just in little sections. >> dr. carson -- >> and i think you're going to see a big impact on autism. >> dr. carson, you just heard his medical take. >> he's an okay doctor. but the fact of the matter is, we have extremely well documented proof that there's no autism associated with vaccinations. but it is true that we are probably giving way too many in too short a period of time. and a lot of pediatricians now recognize that. and i think they're cutting down on the number and the proximity in which those are done. >> and that's all i'm saying, jake. that's all i'm saying.
>> i'm all for vaccines, but i'm also for freedom. i'm also a little concerned about how they're bunched up. my kids had all of their vaccine and even if vaccines doesn't say bunching sup a problem, i have a right 20 spread them out at the very least. >> trump told a story about an employee whose child died after being vaccinated. and he also cited a report that was later found to be fraudulent. sanjay, you heard strufrp, carson and paul saying they're for vaccines but they should be done over a period of time? >> no, there is no merit. i said no and then pause. i don't want anyone to think there's any strings attached. in fact, there are possibly consequences to it. the whole point of vaccines, anderson, is to prevent people
from getting illnesses. if you wait longer to give those vaccines, children are potentially exposed or vulnerable for a longer period of time. especially problematic for homes that have several small children in the house. some of the children may be vaccinated, some of them have been delayed now getting their vaccinations. >> they said there's nol alternative vaccination schedule. >> trump also said he wanted them edadministereds in smaller dpoeps is there any truth to that? there really isn't. people say it seems like it's too much. it's too many vaccines you're gi
giving to people. >> he said it's like a huge tranquilizer. >> we used to give a lot more in the way of vaccines. top left, that's what we used to give. autism rates were the lowest. and as we've given less and less vaccines, awe tim has gone up. you can't read into this idea that there's any relationship whatsoever between vaccines and autism. >> i want you to listen to
something else ben carson said about vaccines and then we'll talk about it. >> vaccines are very important, certain ones. there's some that are necessary and others that are discretionary. >> what do you think of that? >> he's a very well regarded pediatric neurosurgeon. i would be curious what vaccine he's talking about. people tend to forget rotovirus, for example. it kills half a million kids who don't have vaccinations. measles, pump, rue bella, meningitis, which vaccines would you not give your child? how do you start to make that argument that some aren't just that serious? just about any of the diseases that we vaccinate against routinely now can cause people
to get really sick if not die. i don't think you can start to make a list like that of things you wouldn't do. >> you had two doctors on that stage. dr. rand paul and dr. carson. is that politics? what do you think is going on? >> yeah k, i think so. i think dr. carson was strong about saying there's no link between vaccines and autism. this incentive to find a common middle ground, no, there's no correlation here. but it's a lot of vaccines so let's just cut back and do it more slowly, eliminate some. i think it's a little bit of political pandering. it's unfortunate. dr. rand paul earlier this year was saying things about some of the concerns about that time. dr. carson was more forceful in terms of the science last night, but it's dangerous not to just be absolutely clear on this and not equivocate at all.
there's no link between the two. you should not do anything that delays the schedule. you could leave your kids vulnerable and possibly other children as well. >> all right, sanjay, thanks very much. >> thank you. >> hillary clinton's top aides were watching the debate last night. they called it a win for them. they said the gop's opposition to planned parenthood here's what she said at a substance abuse forum for a boys and girls club. >> i think we have to once again recommit ourselves to doing all we can to make sure starting with our kids every single child has the same chance to grow up to achieve his or her dreams and that every family is given the help and support starting at the local level. but backed up by our country so that you're not out there alone. >> last night, clinton appeared
on "the tonight show" on jimmy fallon who dressed up as trump and gave her campaign advice. >> hello, who is this? >> congratulations you're speaking to donald trump. >> oh, hello, donald. >> had you how are you, hillary? >> i haven't seen you since my last wedding. >> well, i'm sure i'll see you in the next one. what is your stance on women issues? >> i know a lot of women and they all have issues. >> she gave her first live interview in an exclusive with wolf blitzer. i talked to wolf earlier about it. >> what were some of the moments with from your interview that stood out? >> well, i really wanted her to have an opportunity. i hear.
point after point after point on the e-mail controversy, listen to what she told me. >> let's talk about another source of criticism from chris christie. you said at the debate, you can't tell the american people the truth. those were his words about your e-mail, the whole controversy. says you should be prosecuted for having a server in your basement. he said with national security secrets running through it. he said russians, chinese, even 18-year-olds could have hacked into your server. you think that was possible that they hacked into your server? >> there's no evidence of that. and again, this is -- you know, this is overheated rhetoric, base cles charges, trying to somehow gain a footing in the debate and in the primary. and it really doesn't deserve any comment. >> you dismissed donald trump's campaign as entertainment. it's not really serious, but the top republican candidate right
now, donald trump for that matter, ben carson, carly fiorina, they're all political outsiders and your main democrat opponent bernie sanders is pulling ahead in some of the polls. he's running as an outsider as well. why is bernie sanders ahead in these polls? new hampshire and iowa right now? >> i said for a long time, polls are going to go up, they're going to go down. i'm very confident and very comfortable about our strategy. i feel that our campaign in iowiowa new hampshire, all the early states. now we're moving on to the states th states th states that come after. i'm excited about the level and intensity of the support that i have. so i always thought this would be a competitive election. i'm looking forward to it. this is the most important job not only in our country, but in the world. and people have to fight hard. they have to make their case and they have to earn the votes of the american voters.
>> you sat next to joe biden when you were the secretary of state for four years. he's been the vice president of the united states now for almost seven years, a heart beat away from the presidency. if he does decide to run, will you be able to tell it american people that you're more qualified to be president than he is? >> i'm not going to comment on a hypothetical and i'm certainly not going to comment on my good friend and former colleague. he has to make up his own mind about what's best for him and his family as he wrestles with this choice. >> you also asked if she was willing to add more democratic debates. >> yeah, i did. she said she's happy to debate, she's happy to do whatever the democratic national committee authorizes. if they want more debate sheshs's happy to go out there on the stage and participate. you ask deeber wasserman shultz to authorize more democratic debates as some of the other democratic candidates want. she said she basically will do
whatever the dnc wants. i know you're going to be moderating the first democratic debate in nevada next month. she'll be there. let's see if she's a lot more than the ones already scheduled. >> october 13, wolf. thanks very much. >> up next, the teenage inventor who ended up in police custody for bringing a homemade clock to school. the reaction has reached all the way to the white house. there's no one road out there. no one surface... no one speed... no one way of driving on each and every road. but there is one car that can conquer them all. the mercedes-benz c-class. five driving modes let you customize the steering, shift points, and suspension to fit the mood you're in... ...and the road you're on. the 2016 c-class. see your authorized dealer for exceptional offers through mercedes-benz financial services.
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>> it's been quite a week for a 14-year-old from texas. ahmed mohammed was arrested on monday after bringing in a overwhe homemade clock. they said it was a hoax bomb. >> reporter: this is ahmed mohammed after being accused of bringing a homemade bomb to school. it was nothing more than his latest invention. >> i guess everyone knows i'm the person who built a clock and got in a lot of trouble for it. >> authorities released this picture of the clock. ahmed said he made it using a pencil case and was excited to show it off at school. >> i built the clock to impress my teacher, but when it showed
it to her, she thought it was a threat to her. so it was really sad that she took the wrong impression of it and i got arrested for it later that day. >> the chief of irving, texas, police department says officers took ahmed into custody because of the device's, quote, suspicious appearance. but by wepz, police announced there would be no charges filed against the 14-year-old. >> the follow-up investigation revealed the device apparently was a homemade experiment and there's no evidence to support the perception he intended to create alarm. >> reporter: the mayor of ir defended the actions of both the school district and police, releasing a statement saying in part, i do not fault the school or the police for look into what they say as a potential threat. still the incident is fuelling criticism and outrage on social media, and plenty of words of encouragement for the teen. >> it made me really happy to see all these people support me
and support others. >> support from high profile names and companies. reddit and facebook has offered him internships. mike zuckerberg said if you would ever like to come by facebook, i would love to meet you. even obama tweeted, cool clock, ahmed. do you want to mebring it to th white house? >> do you ever see the discrimination part of it? >> i don't think a 14-year-old should ever be arrested for bringing a clock to school. >> it's unclear if he's going to return to the same school. he says he wants to transfer. as for the clock, police were initially holding on to it as evidence, but they tell us it is ready for ahmed to pick it up. cnn, miami. >> now am berg walker as a 360 bulletin. >> anderson b, we begin with a 360 follow. general motors will pay a $900
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